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    On 06/15/2012 15:19, Curt Dox wrote:
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      <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Ken
        Moore <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              <div class="h5"> On 06/15/2012 02:52, Curt Dox wrote:
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 3:40
                    PM, Ken Moore <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                          <div> On 06/13/2012 16:17, Curt Dox wrote:
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                              <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 13,
                                2012 at 7:44 AM, Ken Moore <span
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                                wrote:<br>
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                                    <div>On 06/13/2012 06:15, <a
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                                      wrote:<br>
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                                        tray initial state after boot:<br>
                                        <br>
                                        The mount tray lists
                                        sata-device-0 through
                                        sata-device-7.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        A mouse over of each of these
                                        mount tray entries results in a
                                        tool-tip<br>
                                        like pop up with the message:<br>
                                        <br>
                                        unmounted - may be removed.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Right clicking on a mount tray
                                        list item does not produce any
                                        action.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Left clicking on a mount tray
                                        list item either results in the
                                        mounting<br>
                                        of a partition or raises an
                                        exception with the message:<br>
                                        <br>
                                        The filesystem on this device is
                                        unknown and cannot be mounted at
                                        this<br>
                                        time.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Inserting a usb flash drive
                                        usually results in the addition
                                        of one<br>
                                        device name to the mount tray
                                        item list. When a usb flash
                                        drive is<br>
                                        inserted it is usually assigned
                                        the name:<br>
                                        <br>
                                        usb-device-0<br>
                                        <br>
                                        This device name is also found
                                        on the gnome desktop as:<br>
                                        <br>
                                        /media/USB-Device-0, a directory
                                        name; the contents of this
                                        directory<br>
                                        is usually empty.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Rarely, the device and its
                                        contents are mounted.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        About the nomenclature used to
                                        describe mount tray
                                        functionality:<br>
                                        <br>
                                        I don't have seven sata devices
                                        on my laptop. I do have one 500
                                        GB sata<br>
                                        disk currently with seven
                                        partitions.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        I know what mount tray is
                                        talking about because I've
                                        formatted the<br>
                                        drive and the partitions in use
                                        manually.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        I think it would be clearer if
                                         mount tray indicated both<br>
                                        device and partition number.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Usage case<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Were there two sata drives on my
                                        laptop the current method of<br>
                                        describing entries could quickly
                                        become very confusing; for a
                                        desktop<br>
                                        workstation, which might have
                                        several drives, I don't think
                                        this method<br>
                                        would allow a user to quickly
                                        navigate to a particular
                                        partition and<br>
                                        mount it with any degree of
                                        certainty.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Additional configuration
                                        options:<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Is it possible to configure
                                        mount tray and tell it about a
                                        file system<br>
                                        after the system is running - if
                                        not - please consider this as a
                                        right<br>
                                        click option for a mount tray
                                        list item or a configuration
                                        option for<br>
                                        mount tray on the pcbsd control
                                        panel.<br>
                                        <br>
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                                  Since the mount tray is a brand-new
                                  utility, we are still working out some
                                  of the bugs in it.<br>
                                  Could you close the tray app, then run
                                  "sudo pc-mounttray" from a terminal
                                  and let me know what kind of terminal
                                  outputs you are getting when you try
                                  to mount your USB drives?<br>
                                  Also, I am currently working on a
                                  better device-name detection method
                                  for the tray as well. As such, the
                                  next snapshot should have it working
                                  better.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Thanks for the report!<span><font
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                                      -- <br>
                                      ~~ Ken Moore ~~<br>
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                              Hello..<br>
                              <br>
                              I have not extensively tested this
                              feature, however, one idea does spring to
                              mind after reading this. I am uncertain
                              exactly how best to implement it, whether
                              a preferences setting or nested tree, or
                              some sort of combination.  My thought is
                              to enable 'mount by physical device' as an
                              option along with 'mount by
                              slice/partition.'  This way, the average
                              user will get an expected result
                              (especially assuming an automatic mount is
                              enabled) and BSD folks may also have their
                              method.<br>
                              <br>
                              Thanks for your efforts!<br>
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                        I am not sure that I understand exactly what you
                        are referring to here. Say for example that you
                        have a hard-drive (ada0) with 3 partitions
                        (ada0s1,ada0s2,ada0s3). Do you mean that you
                        would want an option to mount ada0 in addition
                        to mounting ada0s* partitions?<br>
                        Right now it check for partitions once it
                        detects a hard-drive (ada0), and if there are no
                        partitions (ada0s*) it lets you mount the disk
                        directly (ada0).<br>
                        <br>
                        Disclaimer: The "ada0" label is just for example
                        purposes, not a limitation of what devices can
                        be detected by the program
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                      If a device has multiple partitions, it would be
                      nice to set a preference that all those partitions
                      would automatically be mounted upon attachment. 
                      The reverse of this preference would be that the
                      specific partition(s) to mount is user-chosen at
                      attachment time while all identified/mountable
                      partitions are shown (about how it occurs in
                      KDE).  <br>
                      <br>
                      I am not sure what effect mounting ada0 would
                      have, if that device has ada0s1, ada0s2, and
                      ada0s3.  However, if there is a difference between
                      mounting ada0 versus mounting all of its
                      partitions, then I guess I'd have to think some
                      more.<br>
                      <br>
                      My thinking is, that generally, were I using
                      Windows, and I insert a usb device, the
                      expectation would be that all partitions are
                      mounted automatically. However, this may not be
                      the assumed result for many BSD users. Assuming
                      this device can be uniquely identified, device
                      specific actions could also be configured for
                      automation..<br>
                      <br>
                      I hope I have not muddled it worse.<br>
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            Basically, you want the option to set specific
            devices/partitions to automatically mount upon detection,
            rather than requiring all devices/partitions to wait for the
            user to click on them before they mount. Is this a fair
            summary?
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      Yes, finally in simplest terms :)<br>
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    I just finished adding this automounting capability to the
    mount-tray. I have it set to automount a device if it matches a
    saved device label/name, filesystem type, and device type (example:
    "my_usb_stick", FAT filesystem, USB device). I do not want to
    require a particular device location (such as /dev/da0) because you
    might plug the device into a different port on your computer or have
    additional devices plugged in (so it might be /dev/da[X] instead).<br>
    <br>
    It should be available for testing in the new snapshots coming up
    (probably not the one scheduled for release in the next couple days,
    but the one after that).<br>
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