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On 06/15/2012 15:19, Curt Dox wrote:
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Ken
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<div class="h5"> On 06/15/2012 02:52, Curt Dox wrote:
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<div> On 06/13/2012 16:17, Curt Dox wrote:
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2012 at 7:44 AM, Ken Moore <span
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tray initial state after boot:<br>
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The mount tray lists
sata-device-0 through
sata-device-7.<br>
<br>
A mouse over of each of these
mount tray entries results in a
tool-tip<br>
like pop up with the message:<br>
<br>
unmounted - may be removed.<br>
<br>
Right clicking on a mount tray
list item does not produce any
action.<br>
<br>
Left clicking on a mount tray
list item either results in the
mounting<br>
of a partition or raises an
exception with the message:<br>
<br>
The filesystem on this device is
unknown and cannot be mounted at
this<br>
time.<br>
<br>
Inserting a usb flash drive
usually results in the addition
of one<br>
device name to the mount tray
item list. When a usb flash
drive is<br>
inserted it is usually assigned
the name:<br>
<br>
usb-device-0<br>
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This device name is also found
on the gnome desktop as:<br>
<br>
/media/USB-Device-0, a directory
name; the contents of this
directory<br>
is usually empty.<br>
<br>
Rarely, the device and its
contents are mounted.<br>
<br>
<br>
About the nomenclature used to
describe mount tray
functionality:<br>
<br>
I don't have seven sata devices
on my laptop. I do have one 500
GB sata<br>
disk currently with seven
partitions.<br>
<br>
I know what mount tray is
talking about because I've
formatted the<br>
drive and the partitions in use
manually.<br>
<br>
I think it would be clearer if
mount tray indicated both<br>
device and partition number.<br>
<br>
Usage case<br>
<br>
Were there two sata drives on my
laptop the current method of<br>
describing entries could quickly
become very confusing; for a
desktop<br>
workstation, which might have
several drives, I don't think
this method<br>
would allow a user to quickly
navigate to a particular
partition and<br>
mount it with any degree of
certainty.<br>
<br>
Additional configuration
options:<br>
<br>
Is it possible to configure
mount tray and tell it about a
file system<br>
after the system is running - if
not - please consider this as a
right<br>
click option for a mount tray
list item or a configuration
option for<br>
mount tray on the pcbsd control
panel.<br>
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Since the mount tray is a brand-new
utility, we are still working out some
of the bugs in it.<br>
Could you close the tray app, then run
"sudo pc-mounttray" from a terminal
and let me know what kind of terminal
outputs you are getting when you try
to mount your USB drives?<br>
Also, I am currently working on a
better device-name detection method
for the tray as well. As such, the
next snapshot should have it working
better.<br>
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Hello..<br>
<br>
I have not extensively tested this
feature, however, one idea does spring to
mind after reading this. I am uncertain
exactly how best to implement it, whether
a preferences setting or nested tree, or
some sort of combination. My thought is
to enable 'mount by physical device' as an
option along with 'mount by
slice/partition.' This way, the average
user will get an expected result
(especially assuming an automatic mount is
enabled) and BSD folks may also have their
method.<br>
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Thanks for your efforts!<br>
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I am not sure that I understand exactly what you
are referring to here. Say for example that you
have a hard-drive (ada0) with 3 partitions
(ada0s1,ada0s2,ada0s3). Do you mean that you
would want an option to mount ada0 in addition
to mounting ada0s* partitions?<br>
Right now it check for partitions once it
detects a hard-drive (ada0), and if there are no
partitions (ada0s*) it lets you mount the disk
directly (ada0).<br>
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Disclaimer: The "ada0" label is just for example
purposes, not a limitation of what devices can
be detected by the program
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If a device has multiple partitions, it would be
nice to set a preference that all those partitions
would automatically be mounted upon attachment.
The reverse of this preference would be that the
specific partition(s) to mount is user-chosen at
attachment time while all identified/mountable
partitions are shown (about how it occurs in
KDE). <br>
<br>
I am not sure what effect mounting ada0 would
have, if that device has ada0s1, ada0s2, and
ada0s3. However, if there is a difference between
mounting ada0 versus mounting all of its
partitions, then I guess I'd have to think some
more.<br>
<br>
My thinking is, that generally, were I using
Windows, and I insert a usb device, the
expectation would be that all partitions are
mounted automatically. However, this may not be
the assumed result for many BSD users. Assuming
this device can be uniquely identified, device
specific actions could also be configured for
automation..<br>
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I hope I have not muddled it worse.<br>
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Basically, you want the option to set specific
devices/partitions to automatically mount upon detection,
rather than requiring all devices/partitions to wait for the
user to click on them before they mount. Is this a fair
summary?
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Yes, finally in simplest terms :)<br>
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I just finished adding this automounting capability to the
mount-tray. I have it set to automount a device if it matches a
saved device label/name, filesystem type, and device type (example:
"my_usb_stick", FAT filesystem, USB device). I do not want to
require a particular device location (such as /dev/da0) because you
might plug the device into a different port on your computer or have
additional devices plugged in (so it might be /dev/da[X] instead).<br>
<br>
It should be available for testing in the new snapshots coming up
(probably not the one scheduled for release in the next couple days,
but the one after that).<br>
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