<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div id="yiv1216170825"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div id="yiv1216170825"><div id="yiv1216170825yui_3_2_0_172_132866676609657"><div id="yiv1216170825yui_3_2_0_172_132866676609658" class="yiv1216170825yui_3_2_0_172_132866676609648" style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div id="yiv1216170825"><div id="yiv1216170825yui_3_2_0_171_132866676609653"><div id="yiv1216170825yui_3_2_0_171_132866676609654" class="yiv1216170825yui_3_2_0_171_132866676609648 yiv1216170825yui_3_2_0_172_132866676609650" style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div id="yiv1216170825yui_3_2_0_14_13286049293491159">I finally got around
to upgrading 8.1 to 9 and here are my observations:<br><br>System is Asus P6T, 6GB RAM, Radeon HD 4850 -- installed amd64 version of PCBSD with KDE only.<br><br>I
would highly recommend figuring out some way of making an interactive
script to assist in re-installing apps using saved config files from the
previous OS version. It's just too much work otherwise. I've got
dozens of apps installed and it's a manual update for most of them
because it's never clear just exactly what config files need to be
copied over, especially if the new PBI isn't the same version. I saved
my home directory so I could retrieve all the config stuff but it's just
not that
easy. The biggest issue is with Firefox as I have dozens of extensions
installed. I can't test restoring FF yet because the PBI failed -
refuses to start, says it's already running. Rinse, reboot, repeat - no
deal - doesn't show up in the
system monitor.<div id="yiv235519484yui_3_2_0_14_1328604929349287"><br></div><div id="yiv235519484yui_3_2_0_14_1328604929349388">I
like how the PBI installer operates automatically, but there's no
option to not install desktop icons, and there's no indication of
download speed which I use to judge whether a particular mirror is good
or not. Also does not tell you where in the KDE menu it gets put. Why
did these apps end up in "Lost and Found" and what is that menu section
for anyway?<br><ul><li>Easy PBI</li><li>Fish Shell</li><li>Grtshell</li><li>K3B</li><li>Launchy</li><li>Lucky Backup</li><li>MySQL Workbench</li><li>PGCalc</li><li>Ted</li><li>VLC</li><li>Warden</li><li>Xarchiver</li><li>Gruler</li><li>Gu Character Map</li></ul>I noticed K3B is also shown in the System and Multimedia menus using a different icon.<br><br>System could not auto detect my monitor size (generic digital Samsung 1600X900).</div><div id="yiv235519484yui_3_2_0_14_1328604929349402"><br>Was
presented with several video card drivers for my Radeon card - how to
choose? Took the default (3D) and it seems to work but without doing a
lot of research I have no idea if it's optimum, especially if I care
about speed and not 3D rendering abilities. I did notice one
interesting change - before, I had all sorts of anomalies with misformed
text characters, screen rewriting errors when scrolling, and other
weird video crap that all went away with the upgrade. I had been
blaming the video card because it seemed like it came out of the blue
and was getting worse with time, behavior not characteristic of software
problems.<br></div><div id="yiv235519484yui_3_2_0_14_1328604929349407"><br></div><div id="yiv235519484yui_3_2_0_14_1328604929349441">Many apps in the app cafe are tagged for the Gnome desktop but it's not clear if they will also work on KDE.</div><div id="yiv235519484yui_3_2_0_14_1328604929349742">Tried
Gruler. Freezes in vertical mode. Not in the KDE menu that I could
find - would be nice if there was a native search facility to find apps
in the menu. Tried Launchy - works well enough.</div><div id="yiv235519484yui_3_2_0_14_1328604929349847"><br></div><div id="yiv235519484yui_3_2_0_14_1328604929349848">It's
getting difficult to find apps because there are too many categories,
e.g. Biology - should be consolidated under Science, or build a
hierarchical browser. Some apps are in strange places like code editors
not under Development, but under Editors. The whole thing needs to be
restructured, IMHO.<br></div><div><br></div><div id="yiv235519484yui_3_2_0_14_1328604929349587">Some apps I use a lot are missing: Yakuake, Webmin,
KOffice, <br></div><div id="yiv235519484yui_3_2_0_14_13286049293491020"><br></div><div id="yiv235519484yui_3_2_0_14_13286049293491021">KBackup is STILL on a very old version. I prodded the maintainer to update the port but it never happened.<br></div><div id="yiv235519484yui_3_2_0_14_1328604929349947"><br></div><div id="yiv235519484yui_3_2_0_14_1328604929349948">One
App, Duplicity, is marked as "Development/unstable version". Should not
be an available PBI. Not sure why sketchy apps like that make it yet
PhpMySQL Admin hasn't (I requested it eons ago).<br></div><div id="yiv235519484yui_3_2_0_14_1328604929349695"><br></div><div id="yiv235519484yui_3_2_0_14_1328604929349609">I
tried Fish in lieu of Yakuake but it wouldn't respond to the keyboard.
The website referrence in the App Cafe for the Fish shell is incorrect -
should be <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.fishshell.com/"><span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1328694186_0">www.fishshell.com</span></a> not .org<br><br>I tried Marble Globe but it
wouldn't display - blank window, possibly a video card/driver issue.<br><br>I
noticed with Opera that it recognized the OS and prompted to upgrade to
11.61 which has a built-in auto update feature obviating the need to
manually update in the future - how does that play with the PBI?<br><br>The
Chromium browser is unstable - many sites never load completely and
then that tab hangs - got popup box saying page is unresponsive - have to kill the tab and open another. Same page
loads fine in Opera. I had problems with Chromium stability on 8.1 too - crashed a lot in Gmail.<br><br>Tried importing a Warden jail. Got a pop up
box with the warning that the jail was created on 8.1 and "may" not
work. Would be nice to have a link to a handbook page discussing this
further, like what exactly might not work and why you might want to
rebuild the jail. Anticipating this I saved the jails as .wdn files and
tarred the jail as well so I could easily extract files should the .wdn
import fail. Should also provide a file progress bar as well during
import of .wdn. I
was successful in importing my jails.<br></div><div id="yiv235519484yui_3_2_0_14_1328604929349636"><br></div><div id="yiv235519484yui_3_2_0_14_13286049293491078">All
in all though, a very impressive upgrade and for some unknown reason,
many times faster than 8.1 - any ideas why? Loading apps used to take
forever but now is lickety split. The search function in Dolphin now
works too. Awesome.<br></div><div id="yiv235519484yui_3_2_0_14_13286049293491158"><br></div>Just
an aside, I used to use Filezilla for maintaining a remote server but
now just use Dolphin configured to use SSH with public/private keys -
much better experience. I wonder how many people are aware of this
capability. Would make a nice how-to in the manual somewhere. Same
with PuTTY - just use Yaquake or whatever terminal program and SSH in
with private/public keys. Much better.<br><br>I had to send this email from my Kubuntu laptop because I have no stable browser yet. Yahoo mail hangs in Chromium every time. When Chromium hangs it's usually because it's waiting for some 3rd party web service that never happens. This occurrs on 50% of the sites I regularly visited in the past without such problems, using Firefox. Also Chromium is still freezing with Gmail randomly.<br><br>...Jeff<br></div><br><div id="yiv1216170825yui_3_2_0_14_13286049293491149"><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>