[PC-BSD Testing] [PC-BSD Dev] PC-BSD Status Update

Bridger Dyson-Smith bdysonsmith at gmail.com
Thu Jun 20 07:49:37 PDT 2013

Hi Kris,
Thanks for the update (and, as always, the continually awesome OS)!

Can you talk a bit more about the decision to include GRUB? Just curious,
from a newbie's perspective, of how the inclusion of the GPL'd stuff w/ the
BSD-licensed stuff will work, long-term.


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Kris Moore <kris at pcbsd.org> wrote:

> I wanted to take this time to give you a status update on PC-BSD /
> TrueOS, and the direction going forward. As many of you know, we've been
> doing builds of 9.1-RELEASE and 9-STABLE as a "Rolling-Release". Our new
> plan is to issue system and package updates on the following schedule:
> - Update PKGNG repo on or about the 1st and 15th of the month.
> - Update the PKGNG repo on or about the 5th and 20th of the month
> - Issue a new "freebsd-update" patch on the 1st, which includes the
> latest -STABLE version
> In addition to the rolling release, we also have some other cool new
> projects in the works. The first among these is our work to make ZFS the
> cornerstone of the PC-BSD/TrueOS experience. This will bring features
> such as ZFS "Boot-Environments", including the ability to boot directly
> from them at the boot-loader. If you've not run boot-environments
> before, you will wonder how you survived without them. To accomplish
> this, we are going to be moving to the GRUB boot-loader, which now has
> ZFS support. The pbi-manager and Warden already have extensive ZFS
> support, and we will be enhancing our other utilities, such as
> "Life-Preserver" with ZFS features as well.
> In addition to re-focusing on solely on ZFS as our default file-system,
> we have had to take a look at the feasibility of continuing with the
> i386 builds. As many of you know, ZFS is a 21st century operating system
> and doesn't play nicely with the legacy i386 kernel / versions of
> FreeBSD. In addition over the past couple years, more and more of
> time-consuming issues we've encountered have been only on i386, partly
> due to the fact that most FreeBSD devs have already moved on to 64bit
> and also due to the quickly shrinking number of users / systems that
> still run i386. In order to make PC-BSD / TrueOS, secure, stable and
> timely, we've decided to drop the i386 builds going forward, and instead
> focus on a single 64bit architecture. This means the next editions of
> rolling-release and 9.2 onward will be 64bit only. If you are already on
> 64bit, then you won't need to worry about anything. However if you are
> running i386 on your box you will need to consider moving it to the
> 64bit versions in the near future. If your hardware is less than 10
> years old then most likely you will be able to do this without any
> difficulty.
> For those helping us test the rolling-release now, I hope to have a new
> ISO + package set available in the next week or so, which includes the
> new GRUB boot-loader for Boot-Environments. I will post back details on
> how to manually setup / test this feature in the near future. Once these
> new features have stabilized a bit further, we will begin to issue
> general updates for users of the old 9.1-RELEASE from January to upgrade
> to 9.1 Rolling Release.
> --
> Kris Moore
> PC-BSD Software
> iXsystems
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