[PC-BSD Testing] Status Update and Future Plans

Joe Maloney jpm820 at gmail.com
Sat Feb 16 19:40:04 PST 2013

I get the same segmentation fault when I try to launch the appcafe also in
this new release.

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Ira Taylor <i.taylor1 at verizon.net> wrote:

> On Monday, February 04, 2013 03:01:20 PM Kris Moore wrote:
> > Developers & Testers,
> >
> > If you've been following the trac commit list with any regularity,
> > you've seen a lot of commits go by in the past months, all having to do
> > with pkgng, and a lot of internal churn to how we do our updates and
> > such. I've written an article for the upcoming BSD Magazine detailing
> > some of the reasons for this, and the "new direction" we are taking with
> > regard to PC-BSD releases, but I also want to post here to give
> > everybody a heads up.
> >
> > First of all, I want to let you know, that I've personally not been
> > satisfied with the frequency of PC-BSD releases and updates. With us
> > tracking the upstream FreeBSD releases, it has really tied our hands
> > getting new releases out to the public. The past couple of releases had
> > a delay of almost a year between them, which is WAY too long in my
> > opinion. To further compound the problem, our build system wasn't
> > designed to do frequent updates of packages and our utilities, which
> > made getting updates out to the community a long and tedious process.
> > This is all going to change. What we are looking at going to now is more
> > of a "Rolling-Release" model, first for our utilities & system packages,
> > and eventually for the FreeBSD base itself.
> >
> > So what benefits will this change bring? Well, for starters, we will now
> > be able to quickly get new features and bugfixes in our core utilities
> > out to PC-BSD & TrueOS users. Instead of having to wait for the next
> > point release, or some specific targeted bugfix, we can get you running
> > new features in a timely manner. In addition to the PC-BSD utilities, we
> > will also be able to keep your system packages (I.E. any FreeBSD binary
> > package) updated and in sync with the ports tree. This means when the
> > next KDE release hits, or NVIDIA driver, apache, etc, we can now make
> it
> > available to you within a matter of a few days.
> >
> > To facilitate all this new rolling-release-goodness, I've been neck-deep
> > in converting our build framework into heavily using pkgng. Even all of
> > our PC-BSD utilities and system-modifications will now be distributed as
> > a pkgng package. What this means is not only do you get access to
> quick
> > updates, but it'll be possible for the first time to take a vanilla
> > FreeBSD system, switch to our pkgng repo, and turn your system into a
> > PC-BSD or TrueOS box. And this will not be some partial repository, the
> > plan is to offer a *complete* binary package repository, so if you now
> > want to install package X,Y, or Z you can do so without ever having to
> > touch the ports tree or compile by hand. PBI's will not be affected, so
> > you can run either depending upon personal preference. Plus this keeps
> > us independent from whats happening upstream with FreeBSD
> packages.
> >
> > As for the base system, I am also looking to set us up running our own
> > "freebsd-update" server. This will allow us to create and run two
> > additional "branches" of PC-BSD, based upon FreeBSD -STABLE and
> > -CURRENT. This is a bit farther out, but I'm already moving bits and
> > pieces around to make this happen. This means when you go to the PC-
> > website, you will now be able to download from three sets of images,
> > -RELEASE, -STABLE, -CURRENT, and these ISO's will be frequently
> updated
> > with new installer fa features and packages.
> >
> > So what if you want to run the same set of packages for a long period of
> > time? Well, the good news is that we aren't going to force this on you.
> > So if you want to grab an ISO, and run a particular desktop environment
> > version forever, then you can do so. The PBI system will still operate
> > independently, so you can keep running those releases without touching
> > your base system packages.
> >
> > With all this said, what's the timeframe? I'm hoping to get the first
> > testing ISO out in the next several weeks, so we can begin beating up
> > the new updating system. I'll also make available an online update for
> > existing 9.1 users to switch to pkgng and jump on the new repository.
> >
> > Thanks for reading, and looking forward to an exciting 2013 for PC-BSD!
> I installed the new 9.1 RELEASE and it installed really fast.  I updated
> all
> packages.  The only problem I have found so far is that appcafe crashes
> with a Segmentation Fault.
> Ira Taylor
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