[PC-BSD Testing] Testing Digest, Vol 83, Issue 16

Gary Corell wa5qjh at xmission.com
Wed Dec 18 15:34:50 PST 2013


I would like to Second the idea of stable meaning stable. Few if any crashes, just like the FreeBSD base PCBSD is built on. I understand the other concept and agree it makes some sense, but why vary from thebasic FreeBSD logic?? What logic does that offer that makes it so compeling?

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> From: Mike Barnard <mike.barnardq at gmail.com>
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> On 18 December 2013 15:13, Claudio L. <claudio at hpgcc3.org> wrote:
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>> On 12/18/2013 01:15, Mike Barnard wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Claudio,
>>> 
>>> The idea of STABLE reflects a picture of a pre-tested, clean, few if not
>>> zero vulnerabilities. RELEASE speaks of just that, tested up to a point we
>>> are comfortable releasing for users to play around with. Just thinking,
>>> what if STABLE remained as thus, stable with the packages updated to this
>>> branch every two months as you suggest. Any one picking the stable version
>>> knows they are picking production quality PCBSD. RELEASE then remains where
>>> packages are shipped in as fast as you can and this runs as the semi-stable
>>> platform for near cutting edge technology. This then leaves CURRENT with
>>> all the experimental stuff, and bleeding edge technology.
>>> 
>>> Follow the FreeBSD tree. Whoever wants a stable production system goes
>>> for STABLE, if you want to test new packages, run RELEASE and if you want
>>> get into the bleeding edge, take CURRENT
>>> 
>>> 
>> Either I got it backwards or you did. I think the name is a bit
>> misleading, but I understood RELEASE is more stable than STABLE.
>> STABLE gives you the mental picture of production quality, but in reality
>> it means stable as in "pushed out as soon as it stopped crashing", versus
>> CURRENT, which is "still might crash".
>> The STABLE branch is a development one, while RELEASE is the production
>> quality one. PCBSD being a rolling release works more like STABLE, getting
>> new packages as they come (but the base system tracks RELEASE on freebsd,
>> to increase confusion).
>> In fact it's so confusing, we should forget about STABLE and RELEASE
>> names. The idea is to have one PCBSD "EDGE" and one PCBSD "PRODUCTION"
>> branches. Or something like that.
>> 
>> 
> You are right[1], I got it backwards or is it mixed up or is it confused...
> It goes like -CURRENT, then -STABLE, then -RELEASE
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> -STABLE actually is still developmental, but not cutting edge like -CURRENT
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> [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/current-stable.html
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> Mike
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> Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a
> million chances happen 99% of the time.
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