[PC-BSD Testing] pbsd-snapshot-20120605 - new mount tray - mostly doesn't work for usb flash driives on my laptop
Ken Moore
ken at pcbsd.org
Fri Jun 15 03:50:41 PDT 2012
On 06/15/2012 02:52, Curt Dox wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Ken Moore <ken at pcbsd.org
> <mailto:ken at pcbsd.org>> wrote:
>
> On 06/13/2012 16:17, Curt Dox wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Ken Moore <ken at pcbsd.org
>> <mailto:ken at pcbsd.org>> wrote:
>>
>> On 06/13/2012 06:15, user10508 at gmail.com
>> <mailto:user10508 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Mount tray initial state after boot:
>>
>> The mount tray lists sata-device-0 through sata-device-7.
>>
>> A mouse over of each of these mount tray entries results
>> in a tool-tip
>> like pop up with the message:
>>
>> unmounted - may be removed.
>>
>> Right clicking on a mount tray list item does not produce
>> any action.
>>
>> Left clicking on a mount tray list item either results in
>> the mounting
>> of a partition or raises an exception with the message:
>>
>> The filesystem on this device is unknown and cannot be
>> mounted at this
>> time.
>>
>> Inserting a usb flash drive usually results in the
>> addition of one
>> device name to the mount tray item list. When a usb flash
>> drive is
>> inserted it is usually assigned the name:
>>
>> usb-device-0
>>
>> This device name is also found on the gnome desktop as:
>>
>> /media/USB-Device-0, a directory name; the contents of
>> this directory
>> is usually empty.
>>
>> Rarely, the device and its contents are mounted.
>>
>>
>> About the nomenclature used to describe mount tray
>> functionality:
>>
>> I don't have seven sata devices on my laptop. I do have
>> one 500 GB sata
>> disk currently with seven partitions.
>>
>> I know what mount tray is talking about because I've
>> formatted the
>> drive and the partitions in use manually.
>>
>> I think it would be clearer if mount tray indicated both
>> device and partition number.
>>
>> Usage case
>>
>> Were there two sata drives on my laptop the current method of
>> describing entries could quickly become very confusing;
>> for a desktop
>> workstation, which might have several drives, I don't
>> think this method
>> would allow a user to quickly navigate to a particular
>> partition and
>> mount it with any degree of certainty.
>>
>> Additional configuration options:
>>
>> Is it possible to configure mount tray and tell it about
>> a file system
>> after the system is running - if not - please consider
>> this as a right
>> click option for a mount tray list item or a
>> configuration option for
>> mount tray on the pcbsd control panel.
>>
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>>
>> Since the mount tray is a brand-new utility, we are still
>> working out some of the bugs in it.
>> Could you close the tray app, then run "sudo pc-mounttray"
>> from a terminal and let me know what kind of terminal outputs
>> you are getting when you try to mount your USB drives?
>> Also, I am currently working on a better device-name
>> detection method for the tray as well. As such, the next
>> snapshot should have it working better.
>>
>> Thanks for the report!
>>
>> --
>> ~~ Ken Moore ~~
>> PC-BSD/iXsystems
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>>
>> Hello..
>>
>> I have not extensively tested this feature, however, one idea
>> does spring to mind after reading this. I am uncertain exactly
>> how best to implement it, whether a preferences setting or nested
>> tree, or some sort of combination. My thought is to enable
>> 'mount by physical device' as an option along with 'mount by
>> slice/partition.' This way, the average user will get an
>> expected result (especially assuming an automatic mount is
>> enabled) and BSD folks may also have their method.
>>
>> Thanks for your efforts!
>>
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>
> I am not sure that I understand exactly what you are referring to
> here. Say for example that you have a hard-drive (ada0) with 3
> partitions (ada0s1,ada0s2,ada0s3). Do you mean that you would want
> an option to mount ada0 in addition to mounting ada0s* partitions?
> Right now it check for partitions once it detects a hard-drive
> (ada0), and if there are no partitions (ada0s*) it lets you mount
> the disk directly (ada0).
>
> Disclaimer: The "ada0" label is just for example purposes, not a
> limitation of what devices can be detected by the program
>
>
> --
> ~~ Ken Moore ~~
> PC-BSD/iXsystems
>
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>
> If a device has multiple partitions, it would be nice to set a
> preference that all those partitions would automatically be mounted
> upon attachment. The reverse of this preference would be that the
> specific partition(s) to mount is user-chosen at attachment time while
> all identified/mountable partitions are shown (about how it occurs in
> KDE).
>
> I am not sure what effect mounting ada0 would have, if that device has
> ada0s1, ada0s2, and ada0s3. However, if there is a difference between
> mounting ada0 versus mounting all of its partitions, then I guess I'd
> have to think some more.
>
> My thinking is, that generally, were I using Windows, and I insert a
> usb device, the expectation would be that all partitions are mounted
> automatically. However, this may not be the assumed result for many
> BSD users. Assuming this device can be uniquely identified, device
> specific actions could also be configured for automation..
>
> I hope I have not muddled it worse.
>
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Basically, you want the option to set specific devices/partitions to
automatically mount upon detection, rather than requiring all
devices/partitions to wait for the user to click on them before they
mount. Is this a fair summary?
--
~~ Ken Moore ~~
PC-BSD/iXsystems
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