[PC-BSD Testing] pbsd-snapshot-20120605 - new mount tray - mostly doesn't work for usb flash driives on my laptop

Ken Moore ken at pcbsd.org
Fri Jun 15 03:50:41 PDT 2012


On 06/15/2012 02:52, Curt Dox wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Ken Moore <ken at pcbsd.org 
> <mailto:ken at pcbsd.org>> wrote:
>
>     On 06/13/2012 16:17, Curt Dox wrote:
>>
>>
>>     On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Ken Moore <ken at pcbsd.org
>>     <mailto:ken at pcbsd.org>> wrote:
>>
>>         On 06/13/2012 06:15, user10508 at gmail.com
>>         <mailto:user10508 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>             Mount tray initial state after boot:
>>
>>             The mount tray lists sata-device-0 through sata-device-7.
>>
>>             A mouse over of each of these mount tray entries results
>>             in a tool-tip
>>             like pop up with the message:
>>
>>             unmounted - may be removed.
>>
>>             Right clicking on a mount tray list item does not produce
>>             any action.
>>
>>             Left clicking on a mount tray list item either results in
>>             the mounting
>>             of a partition or raises an exception with the message:
>>
>>             The filesystem on this device is unknown and cannot be
>>             mounted at this
>>             time.
>>
>>             Inserting a usb flash drive usually results in the
>>             addition of one
>>             device name to the mount tray item list. When a usb flash
>>             drive is
>>             inserted it is usually assigned the name:
>>
>>             usb-device-0
>>
>>             This device name is also found on the gnome desktop as:
>>
>>             /media/USB-Device-0, a directory name; the contents of
>>             this directory
>>             is usually empty.
>>
>>             Rarely, the device and its contents are mounted.
>>
>>
>>             About the nomenclature used to describe mount tray
>>             functionality:
>>
>>             I don't have seven sata devices on my laptop. I do have
>>             one 500 GB sata
>>             disk currently with seven partitions.
>>
>>             I know what mount tray is talking about because I've
>>             formatted the
>>             drive and the partitions in use manually.
>>
>>             I think it would be clearer if  mount tray indicated both
>>             device and partition number.
>>
>>             Usage case
>>
>>             Were there two sata drives on my laptop the current method of
>>             describing entries could quickly become very confusing;
>>             for a desktop
>>             workstation, which might have several drives, I don't
>>             think this method
>>             would allow a user to quickly navigate to a particular
>>             partition and
>>             mount it with any degree of certainty.
>>
>>             Additional configuration options:
>>
>>             Is it possible to configure mount tray and tell it about
>>             a file system
>>             after the system is running - if not - please consider
>>             this as a right
>>             click option for a mount tray list item or a
>>             configuration option for
>>             mount tray on the pcbsd control panel.
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>>
>>         Since the mount tray is a brand-new utility, we are still
>>         working out some of the bugs in it.
>>         Could you close the tray app, then run "sudo pc-mounttray"
>>         from a terminal and let me know what kind of terminal outputs
>>         you are getting when you try to mount your USB drives?
>>         Also, I am currently working on a better device-name
>>         detection method for the tray as well. As such, the next
>>         snapshot should have it working better.
>>
>>         Thanks for the report!
>>
>>         -- 
>>         ~~ Ken Moore ~~
>>         PC-BSD/iXsystems
>>
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>>
>>     Hello..
>>
>>     I have not extensively tested this feature, however, one idea
>>     does spring to mind after reading this. I am uncertain exactly
>>     how best to implement it, whether a preferences setting or nested
>>     tree, or some sort of combination.  My thought is to enable
>>     'mount by physical device' as an option along with 'mount by
>>     slice/partition.'  This way, the average user will get an
>>     expected result (especially assuming an automatic mount is
>>     enabled) and BSD folks may also have their method.
>>
>>     Thanks for your efforts!
>>
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>     I am not sure that I understand exactly what you are referring to
>     here. Say for example that you have a hard-drive (ada0) with 3
>     partitions (ada0s1,ada0s2,ada0s3). Do you mean that you would want
>     an option to mount ada0 in addition to mounting ada0s* partitions?
>     Right now it check for partitions once it detects a hard-drive
>     (ada0), and if there are no partitions (ada0s*) it lets you mount
>     the disk directly (ada0).
>
>     Disclaimer: The "ada0" label is just for example purposes, not a
>     limitation of what devices can be detected by the program
>
>
>     -- 
>     ~~ Ken Moore ~~
>     PC-BSD/iXsystems
>
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>
> If a device has multiple partitions, it would be nice to set a 
> preference that all those partitions would automatically be mounted 
> upon attachment.  The reverse of this preference would be that the 
> specific partition(s) to mount is user-chosen at attachment time while 
> all identified/mountable partitions are shown (about how it occurs in 
> KDE).
>
> I am not sure what effect mounting ada0 would have, if that device has 
> ada0s1, ada0s2, and ada0s3.  However, if there is a difference between 
> mounting ada0 versus mounting all of its partitions, then I guess I'd 
> have to think some more.
>
> My thinking is, that generally, were I using Windows, and I insert a 
> usb device, the expectation would be that all partitions are mounted 
> automatically. However, this may not be the assumed result for many 
> BSD users. Assuming this device can be uniquely identified, device 
> specific actions could also be configured for automation..
>
> I hope I have not muddled it worse.
>
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Basically, you want the option to set specific devices/partitions to 
automatically mount upon detection, rather than requiring all 
devices/partitions to wait for the user to click on them before they 
mount. Is this a fair summary?

-- 
~~ Ken Moore ~~
PC-BSD/iXsystems

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