[PC-BSD Testing] 9.1-BETA1 now available!

Hans Ruhe hansruhe1 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 20 03:40:57 PDT 2012


Hi to you all,

No do  not kill ZFS all together. I just love it and that is one of the
reasons PCBSD so gladly. The install screen should be rolled back in the
situation that there will be a choice of what filesystem one wants :-)

Best regards,
Hans

2012/7/20 Lars Engels <lars.engels at 0x20.net>

> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:52:45AM -0500, Arthur wrote:
> > On 07/19/2012 11:41 AM, Kris Moore wrote:
> > > On 07/19/2012 12:18, Arthur wrote:
> > >> On 07/19/2012 9:24 AM, Kris Moore wrote:
> > >>> On 07/19/2012 10:12, Arthur wrote:
> > >>>> Kris,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm currently trying to install the new beta on x86 but it seems to
> > >>>> be stuck on KDE installation. Currently, it's stuck on "Installing
> > >>>> Meta-Package: KDE" (18%) and "Installing package:
> > >>>> kde-workspace-4.8.4" (12%). It's been stuck on this percentage for
> > >>>> about 30 minutes now. HD light is solid but there is no DVD
> > >>>> activity. Machine is not locked up or anything.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Arthur
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Right-click to open an xterm, and run "top" is anything using up CPU?
> > >>
> > >> It's showing pkg_add as the highest CPU using process but at around
> > >> 1%+/-. That's nothing. However, I think I have found the problem. I'm
> > >> using my usual abuse box (Dell Optiplex 960, 4GB RAM, Core 2 Duo
> > >> 3.3GHz) and I am noticing that when I choose to install by just using
> > >> the "Next" buttons, it defaults to ZFS when partitioning the drive.
> > >> So I restarted the install and did and Advanced install when it came
> > >> to the HD and chose SU+J. When I used this option, installation
> > >> completed in around 11 minutes and it did not hang at the previous
> > >> place. So in this case, I am pointing the finger squarely at ZFS.
> > >>
> > >> I don't know how strongly committed you guys are committed to the
> > >> model of if RAM => 4GB use ZFS else if RAM < 4GB use SU+J, but it's
> > >> just my humblest of opinions to suggest defaulting to UFS instead of
> > >> ZFS even if a system has 4GB or more. Otherwise, maybe give some kind
> > >> of option to choose one or the other during that portion of the
> > >> install and explain the difference. To me, ZFS should be left to the
> > >> realm of the uber power users or those who'd want to dig around in
> > >> the Advanced menu options and choose it specifically. It could be
> > >> that this is just a one-off event that happened to me but some other
> > >> user installing 9.1 might encounter this and say "WTF?" and think
> > >> it's hung up on something and scrap the install not knowing ZFS was
> > >> to blame. Just sayin'.
> > >>
> > >> Other than that, install went fine with SU+J, detected monitor and
> > >> on-board Intel VGA just fine. Looks great so far!
> > >>
> > >> cheers,
> > >> Arthur
> > > I'd be curious how long it took to finish with ZFS in your case, of it
> > > it just hung. I do all my installs here with ZFS, and it only takes
> > > 10-15 minutes usually.
> >
> > Me too. Any way to add some kind of timer stating it took "xx:xx"
> > minutes to complete the install? I can run the installer with ZFS and
> > let it go overnight to see if it finishes.
>
> You could try to "kill -INFO" the pkg_add process a few times and see if
> it is still doing something. But I can't tell if you can actually see
> the output. It would appear on pkg_add's controlling terminal.
>
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