[PC-BSD Testing] 9.0 b2, KDE (flash), GNOME (shortcuts)

Serghey Suvorov serghey.suvorov at gmail.com
Fri Sep 16 05:28:12 PDT 2011

Hi Ken,

OK with shortcuts in GNOME-menu.
Therefore it was a chance error, i.e.
difficult-to-locate one; badly.
I couldn't miss these icons as checked up
all main menu.


On 15 September 2011 23:03, Serghey Suvorov <serghey.suvorov at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Ken,
> 2nd message: OK with PBI-icons in GNOME.
> My previous experiments were executing in Rus version
> of GNOME. Can it be: missing Rus name of item in PBI
> is in the way of its appearance in menu?
> Tomorrow I'll install Eng GNOME and check the same PBI.
> Thanks
> Regards
> Serghey
> On 15 September 2011 19:12, Ken Moore <ken at pcbsd.org> wrote:
>>  On 09/14/11 14:14, Serghey Suvorov wrote:
>> Hi Ken,
>> 1) I installed Firefox, Kile, wxMaxima, OpenOffice-RU and 5th else
>> (forgot).
>> I just checked all of these PBI's and they properly placed the desktop and
>> menu shortcuts when installed via the AppCafe. I did discover that the
>> openoffice shortcuts were not working, and I have fixed them in svn. If you
>> use the pbi_add command from a terminal to install a PBI, it does not place
>> the desktop and menu shortcuts by default, you have to add them via the
>> AppCafe afterwords.
>> 2) At my experiments the icons were restored, but without miniatures, and
>> with the same messages you wrote.
>> There were not insuperable difficulties: I wanted to see KDE quickly.
>>  The messages were because of a special feature for GNOME to recognize
>> "Trusted" desktop shortcuts, and pressing the  "Mark as trusted" option
>> returns the desktop shortcut back to its original appearance and
>> functionality. I have discovered that each DE has its own little quirks that
>> you just need to get used to (such as this one). That is why I am so pleased
>> to be able to let the user select the DE of their choice now, so that you
>> can avoid (as much as possible) learning the quirks of a new DE just to use
>> 3) However that is not the enquiry. Now PCBSD have the unique possibility
>> to win the usual users: Linux isn't going well (and will not); Windows is
>>  high-value item; PCBSD is nice for all I showed.
>> Do you see any housewife which can execute your instructions?
>> I am glad that you are pleased with PCBSD. We are attempting to make it
>> easy to use and minimize the amount of terminal time needed so that a
>> computer-illiterate person can use it easily. I have gotten a number of
>> people I know to switch over to it, most of those being computer users who
>> don't even realize there is such a thing as a terminal, so I think we are
>> getting to that point gradually, but there is always more to do.
>> Thanks
>> Best regards
>> Serghey
>> On 14 September 2011 20:10, Ken Moore <ken at pcbsd.org> wrote:
>>>  -snip-
>>>    >
>>>> > 2) GNOME.
>>>> >
>>>> > I installed many PBIs with success, then deleted some shortcuts from
>>>> > desktop in order to use GNOME-menu. Alas, they were absent in menu :(
>>>> > After moving from trash to desktop, the shortcuts had not been
>>>> restored
>>>> > up to operable state.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Best regards
>>>> > Serghey
>>>  As to this error, I just installed the GNOME desktop to test it. I found
>>> that installing PBI's via the AppCafe worked flawlessly, with both desktop
>>> icon and menu icon in the appropriate place and functional. What PBI did you
>>> install that did not have a menu icon, but did have a desktop icon? I ask
>>> this because some programs do not have either Menu or Desktop icons, but if
>>> there is a desktop icon there should be a corresponding menu entry as well.
>>> If there is one but not the other, let me know and I can fix that for the
>>> PBI.
>>> Trashing desktop icons:
>>> I found that GNOME was unable to restore the desktop icon after trashing
>>> with the error: "Could not determine original location of '(desktop entry)'
>>> ".
>>> However, by dragging the icon from the trash back to the desktop and
>>> running it, I was given the warning that is was an untrusted application and
>>> choices to launch anyway, Mark as trusted, or cancel. By launching anyway,
>>> the program started without a problem. Marking it as trusted simply returned
>>> the icon to its original look on the desktop, and it started normally when
>>> running it after that.
>>> Instead of dragging the desktop icon from the trash back to the desktop,
>>> I also tried re-installing the desktop icon by right clicking on the
>>> application in the AppCafe and selecting "Install Desktop Icons". This
>>> replaced the icon on the desktop without a problem and the icon worked just
>>> fine as well.
>>> So in other words, I was unable to duplicate your error with the GNOME
>>> desktop and the desktop icons/menu entries. If you have some additional
>>> information to try and nail down when this error happened, I will try to
>>> reproduce/fix it here.
>>> Thanks for the report!
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