[PC-BSD Testing] 9.0 b2, KDE (flash), GNOME (shortcuts)

Serghey Suvorov serghey.suvorov at gmail.com
Thu Sep 15 13:03:27 PDT 2011

Hi Ken,

2nd message: OK with PBI-icons in GNOME.
My previous experiments were executing in Rus version
of GNOME. Can it be: missing Rus name of item in PBI
is in the way of its appearance in menu?

Tomorrow I'll install Eng GNOME and check the same PBI.


On 15 September 2011 19:12, Ken Moore <ken at pcbsd.org> wrote:

>  On 09/14/11 14:14, Serghey Suvorov wrote:
> Hi Ken,
> 1) I installed Firefox, Kile, wxMaxima, OpenOffice-RU and 5th else
> (forgot).
> I just checked all of these PBI's and they properly placed the desktop and
> menu shortcuts when installed via the AppCafe. I did discover that the
> openoffice shortcuts were not working, and I have fixed them in svn. If you
> use the pbi_add command from a terminal to install a PBI, it does not place
> the desktop and menu shortcuts by default, you have to add them via the
> AppCafe afterwords.
> 2) At my experiments the icons were restored, but without miniatures, and
> with the same messages you wrote.
> There were not insuperable difficulties: I wanted to see KDE quickly.
>  The messages were because of a special feature for GNOME to recognize
> "Trusted" desktop shortcuts, and pressing the  "Mark as trusted" option
> returns the desktop shortcut back to its original appearance and
> functionality. I have discovered that each DE has its own little quirks that
> you just need to get used to (such as this one). That is why I am so pleased
> to be able to let the user select the DE of their choice now, so that you
> can avoid (as much as possible) learning the quirks of a new DE just to use
> 3) However that is not the enquiry. Now PCBSD have the unique possibility
> to win the usual users: Linux isn't going well (and will not); Windows is
>  high-value item; PCBSD is nice for all I showed.
> Do you see any housewife which can execute your instructions?
> I am glad that you are pleased with PCBSD. We are attempting to make it
> easy to use and minimize the amount of terminal time needed so that a
> computer-illiterate person can use it easily. I have gotten a number of
> people I know to switch over to it, most of those being computer users who
> don't even realize there is such a thing as a terminal, so I think we are
> getting to that point gradually, but there is always more to do.
> Thanks
> Best regards
> Serghey
> On 14 September 2011 20:10, Ken Moore <ken at pcbsd.org> wrote:
>>  -snip-
>>    >
>>> > 2) GNOME.
>>> >
>>> > I installed many PBIs with success, then deleted some shortcuts from
>>> > desktop in order to use GNOME-menu. Alas, they were absent in menu :(
>>> > After moving from trash to desktop, the shortcuts had not been restored
>>> > up to operable state.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Best regards
>>> > Serghey
>>  As to this error, I just installed the GNOME desktop to test it. I found
>> that installing PBI's via the AppCafe worked flawlessly, with both desktop
>> icon and menu icon in the appropriate place and functional. What PBI did you
>> install that did not have a menu icon, but did have a desktop icon? I ask
>> this because some programs do not have either Menu or Desktop icons, but if
>> there is a desktop icon there should be a corresponding menu entry as well.
>> If there is one but not the other, let me know and I can fix that for the
>> PBI.
>> Trashing desktop icons:
>> I found that GNOME was unable to restore the desktop icon after trashing
>> with the error: "Could not determine original location of '(desktop entry)'
>> ".
>> However, by dragging the icon from the trash back to the desktop and
>> running it, I was given the warning that is was an untrusted application and
>> choices to launch anyway, Mark as trusted, or cancel. By launching anyway,
>> the program started without a problem. Marking it as trusted simply returned
>> the icon to its original look on the desktop, and it started normally when
>> running it after that.
>> Instead of dragging the desktop icon from the trash back to the desktop, I
>> also tried re-installing the desktop icon by right clicking on the
>> application in the AppCafe and selecting "Install Desktop Icons". This
>> replaced the icon on the desktop without a problem and the icon worked just
>> fine as well.
>> So in other words, I was unable to duplicate your error with the GNOME
>> desktop and the desktop icons/menu entries. If you have some additional
>> information to try and nail down when this error happened, I will try to
>> reproduce/fix it here.
>> Thanks for the report!
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