[PC-BSD Testing] PC-BSD 8.1-RC1 Oddness and one out of place icon

Kris Moore kris at pcbsd.org
Thu Jun 24 11:11:36 PDT 2010

On 06/24/2010 14:04, Arthur Koziol wrote:
> On 06/24/2010 10:34 AM, Arthur Koziol wrote:
>> On 06/24/2010 10:23 AM, Kris Moore wrote:
>>> On 06/23/2010 10:32, Arthur Koziol wrote:
>>>> On 06/23/2010 8:25 AM, Arthur Koziol wrote:
>>>>> On 06/23/2010 8:17 AM, Kris Moore wrote:
>>>>>> On 06/23/2010 09:15, Arthur Koziol wrote:
>>>>>>> On 06/23/2010 8:00 AM, Kris Moore wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 06/22/2010 15:53, Arthur Koziol wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Kris,
>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure I observed this in 8.1 BETA1 but thought maybe 
>>>>>>>>> it was just an anomaly. While doing the following: System 
>>>>>>>>> Settings > System Manager > Run in Administrator Mode > Tasks 
>>>>>>>>> tab > Fetch Ports Tree, I left it doing it's thing and had my 
>>>>>>>>> back turned to the system while doing something on my work PC. 
>>>>>>>>> When I turned around a few minutes later, the screen was at 
>>>>>>>>> the username and password prompt. I logged back in expecting 
>>>>>>>>> to see Fetch doing its parsing thingy but it just brought me 
>>>>>>>>> to my desktop with nothing running. I also checked in Kicker > 
>>>>>>>>> Recently Used tab to see if Systems Settings was there and it 
>>>>>>>>> wasn't so the session seems to have no memory of what I had 
>>>>>>>>> done earlier with the Fetch. My *guess* is this is a KDE bug 
>>>>>>>>> but I have no way of determining it for sure. I tried to 
>>>>>>>>> replicate it with a fresh install and set things as stated 
>>>>>>>>> below but I was not able to recreate the occurrence.
>>>>>>>>> Now, the only things different I have set from a default fresh 
>>>>>>>>> install is: I have my screen saver set to 5 minutes from the 
>>>>>>>>> default 15, screen saver is Solar Winds (GL) (set to 
>>>>>>>>> Undertow), Desktop Wallpaper is set to a static image, and 
>>>>>>>>> boot delay is set to Off. VGA driver is Intel-3D-Enable if it 
>>>>>>>>> matters.
>>>>>>>> That does sound like a crash of some type, which booted you 
>>>>>>>> back to the login. If you can duplicate it please let me know :)
>>>>>>> If I can duplicate it, is there a log or something that would 
>>>>>>> have any usable crash info that I could pass along?
>>>>>> Sure, you'll want to look through the file '.xsession-errors' in 
>>>>>> your homedir, its got all the debug / stderr stuff from your GUI.
>>>>> Thanks Kris, will do.
>>>>> Arthur
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>>>> Kris,
>>>> Ok, it looks like I was able to replicate the crash that kicks me 
>>>> out to the login prompt. This time I was running a "Fetch System 
>>>> Ports Tree" (System Manager > Tasks tab) and just let it sit for 
>>>> like 10 minutes or so. I didn't want to log in for fear of it doing 
>>>> something to the .xsession-errors file so I tried to plug in a 
>>>> flash drive and drop down to terminal via CTRL-ALT-F1 and copy it 
>>>> up but when I did it corrupted the screen and I had no mouse nor 
>>>> could I back out. All I could do was punch the power button and 
>>>> things did seem to shut down gracefully albeit with nothing showing 
>>>> as much on my monitor. In any case, I have the .xsession-errors 
>>>> file after I logged back into the machine. Do you want it or would 
>>>> it not be of any use to you?
>>>> Arthur
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>>> Well I think that file gets nuked at each login :( If you can find a 
>>> way to get me the one with the crash details then I'm interested :)
>> Kris,
>> Yeah, I figured as much. Any suggestions (step-by-step?) at getting 
>> at the session file if I am kicked to login prompt and can't drop 
>> down to terminal? Here's hoping whatever is causing it gets fixed in 
>> 4.4.5.
>> Arthur
>> _______________________________________________
> Kris,
> I just had another instance of it crashing on me and it's currently 
> sitting at the login prompt. If I log in, I am guessing it'll nuke the 
> xsession info?
> Fresh install, same settings as mentioned earlier, ran Fetch Ports and 
> it completed fine. Ran Fetch System Ports right afterward. Screensaver 
> kicked in at 5 minute mark and was doing it's thing. Then, a few 
> minutes or so later, the screen went into powersave mode (black 
> screen). I moved the mouse and found it to be at login prompt.
> Last time I went to CTRL-ALT-F1 it hosed the screen and mouse so I 
> don't think it'll work again. What should I try?
> Arthur

If going to the console causes a crash then the best way I can think to 
get the log is to create another user account on the system :) Then 
after a crash, login as the other user, su to root and copy the log file 
someplace safe.

Kris Moore
PC-BSD Software

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