[PC-BSD Testing] Runports needs help

Ian Robinson fitchkendall at gmail.com
Tue Jun 16 08:12:16 PDT 2009

Dear Kris,

Looking at the number of fixes you are posting to the Trac for 7.1.1, you
are working hard seven days a week.  We are all anticipating the upcoming
release of 7.1.1 and its refinement of the 7.1 base.

For PCBSD 7.2 or PCBSD 8.0, which ever comes first, please consider this
comment for addition to the Wish List of improvements:

Improve the setup and implementation of the local user base issue
("runports") by having the runports preparatory work completed and
ready-to-run as part of the ports installation.   The the idea behind having
ports installed in a local user base is a great one to fulfill the purpose
that the base system will not get broken by a user installing ports.

However, while editing configuration files and running whatever shell
scripts need running is a trivial task, completing the very lengthy "make"
process is a barrier, consumes several hours or overnight to compile, and
might end in failure anyway.   Right now the local base-runports issue is
causing confusion amongst users and is therefore a barrier to PCBSD and
potentially harmful to its reputation as an easy to use operating system.

See http://forums.pcbsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=13714&p=81224#p81224 which
lists several forum links where confusion surrounding the runports problem
has surfaced.

If a user chooses to install the optional ports tree (which is a big plus
for PCBSD users), he or she will necessarily need to use runports.  If the
runports preparation was ready for use through the installation, a user
could select runports and thereafter follow the traditional method to cd to
the port's location,and install the port without further fuss or knowledge.

Pros:  Elimination of confusion, ease-of-use, easy adaptation of PCBSD,
protection from breaking the system base.

Cons:  Kris will have to do more work compiling the parts for installation.

I wonder what others think?

Ian Robinson
Salem, Ohio
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