[PC-BSD Testing] Automounting of USB drives - Why is it a problem?
kris at pcbsd.com
Wed Apr 15 06:42:04 PDT 2009
> On 15.04.2009 15:48, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:28 PM, A.Yerenkow <yerenkow at uct.ua
>> <mailto:yerenkow at uct.ua>> wrote:
>> On 15.04.2009 15:15, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:09 PM, A.Yerenkow <yerenkow at uct.ua
>>> <mailto:yerenkow at uct.ua>> wrote:
>>> On 15.04.2009 14:50, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
>>>> Hello List,
>>>> For some time now, I have been baffled by one thing: Mac OS
>>>> X somehow has FreeBSD under the hood. When you connect a USB
>>>> stick (flash disk, external drive) to a Mac, it gets
>>>> automounted, yet the same does not happen on FreeBSD.
>>>> I have seen several questions being asked on this list about
>>>> this feature, but the answer is neither here nor there.
>>>> There is even a port (sysutils/automounter) that I believe
>>>> is supposed to help towards this, but again it's not as easy
>>>> as it seems to be.
>>>> Now my question is just one: Why should it be this difficult
>>>> for FreeBSD to have the automount feature within the base
>>>> If OS X is doing it, Linux is doing it, FreeBSD can do it.
>>> Mount usb dev, work with it somehow ( copy there or from),
>>> and then NOT umounted it, remove it.
>>> You'll probably get kernel panic and system crash. This
>>> happen in almost all cases.
>>> While BSD -Stable didn't merge new USB stack, which would
>>> behave normal in such situation, auto-mount not good idea.
>>> That's my IMHO :)
>>> Sure, but you haven't seen a Mac OS X panic so far, right?
>>> Perhaps you haven't seen/used any Mac, so you are not to blame:-)
>>> All I am wondering about is why it cannot happen in FreeBSD world?
>> You probably not aware that Apple don't cares at all of FreeBSD,
>> and simple took it's code, reworked it out and keep it closed.
>> So, in this OS, partially based on FreeBSD such kernel panics not
>> But we are talking not about Mac OS X closed-source internal
>> things? :) We are talking about "why not >>> in FreeBSD >>>>".
>> This _can_ happen in FreeBSD world, we need just some patience,
>> and wait for new USB-stack being completed and polished.
>> So your contention is that the USB code (usb2 to be precise) is not
>> yet ready on FreeBSD and that is the reason, right?
> My assumption that there must be some reason (which I even couldn't
> know), why it's not yet merged in 7-stable :)
>> We aren't big software company, which if wants some feature to be
>> completed in month - hired and _payed_ a lot of workers.
>> FreeBSD world is volunteers world, and all software here is ready
>> only when it's ready :)
>> This one I know:-)
>> That is why I am not throwing tantrums.
I guess my one question would be to ask by what you mean with
auto-mounting. Do you mean you want the system to detect, and mount the
media to /mnt/usb or somewhere, or that you want insert notification
like with HAL, that detects when you insert a new device, and asks what
you want to do with it.
Right now on my system, If I plugin a USB memory stick, the KDE device
notifier pops up, and lets me know, and gives me the option to mount, or
run other actions on the device. That seems like a pretty reasonable
thing to do to me. I only have to click once, and my media is mounted
and ready to go.
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