[PC-BSD Testing] More on: Beta 1 balky using 8GB Thumb, contention issue?

A.Yerenkow yerenkow at uct.ua
Mon Sep 8 21:38:18 PDT 2008

Bill Leeper пишет:
> I can confirm your observations on the thumb drive installations. But  
> I would lay it more to the poor read/write speed of a standard flash  
> drive. I intend to pick up a high speed flash drive in a month or two  
> and try it with that. I would suspect that with a 16 GB high speed  
> flash drive it should do much better.

I have external flash drive WD Passport 80Gb, the speed and performance
pretty good; Average user couldn't detect if OS running from normal hard
drive, or from external USB :)
So, I suggest that or BIOS has enabled USB-1.1 (which is safe, bot
sloooooow), or your thumb itself slow one.
I'm planning to buy very fast thumb in late september-october (Like
Corsair Voyager GT), and make some experiments with PcBSD.

> On Sep 8, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Peter Brewster wrote:
>> Some investigation -
>> 1)  Confirmed that Xubuntu on a thumb boots and runs well.  What I  
>> thought was a minor balk is Xubuntu giving to much time to grunt  
>> work and not enough priority to human interface.
>> 2)  Confirmed that beta-1 takes a long time to boot from a thumb  
>> drive and then runs in a very balky manor.  Operations are  
>> eventually correct but system is not usable.
>> 3)  Installed a 7200 rpm disk.  Beta-1 install took about 20 minutes  
>> vs. three hours to SanDisk thumb.  Operation was very nice from the  
>> first start.  Ksysguard showed similar cpu and memory usage but  
>> about 10 fewer processes using disk vs. thumb (137 vs. 147.)
>> Bottom line:  I'll give up on the thumb drive for PCBSD . . at least  
>> for now.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Peter Brewster
>> To: Testing at lists.pcbsd.org
>> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 6:26 PM
>> Subject: Beta 1 balky using 8GB Thumb, contention issue?
>> System is 2.8 MHz Celeron with .75 GB RAM, no hard drive, USB 2.0.
>> 1)  System had been in use with Xububtu on an 8 GB Ocz thumb.  Very  
>> nice except an occasional one to two second "balk" when launching a  
>> new application or scrolling in Firefox.
>> 2)  Removed Ocz and plugged in a new SanDisk thumb, fresh from  
>> package.  Tried to install from net.  DHCP was OK and target FTP was  
>> correct.  File system went in OK.  Looks like install died on first  
>> file needed.  Gave that up.
>> 3)  Burned a three-CD beta-1 set.  Installed with Firefox, Office  
>> and Development selected on third CD.  Install took about three  
>> hours but went OK.  However from the first reboot some operations  
>> took several minutes, either to launch or to so something simple  
>> such as pull down a menu.  But the actions generally seemed correct  
>> if I waited long enough.  Now and then a launch would just get lost  
>> - including that doggone bouncing thing.    The thumb drive had  
>> about 900 MB free.  System was basically unusable.
>> 4)  Removed the SanDisk thumb and WinXP formatted it.  (This left  
>> the U3 partition of 65 MB.  That's OK.)  Reinstalled just the two  
>> CDs.  Took about two-plus hours.  Now KDisk Free shows /dev/da0s1a  
>> as 76% used with 1.8 GB free.   /dev/md0 is 8% used with 700 MB  
>> free.  This looks OK to me.  However there is no apparent change in  
>> the balky behavior.  I notice that often, while waiting seconds to  
>> minutes for some function to appear, clicking on something else will  
>> cause the first item to happen.  I've seen this behavior when  
>> installing very fast disks on systems that worked well with slower  
>> disks - usually resolved by paying attention to relative  
>> priorities.  So system is still not usable.
>> Kris - KDisk also shows a line entry "devfs   ?  1 KB   100% used  0  
>> free" and the thermometer is filled with red.  No slashes around  
>> devfs.  I have no idea what that is about and don't know if it is a  
>> concern.
>> Peter Brewster
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