[PC-BSD Testing] Some nice PC-BSD addons

DragonFlier dracheflieger at gmail.com
Sat Aug 30 07:01:45 PDT 2008

I haven't participated much in the forums or this list over the last year or
so due to personal things going on in my life (I hope to get back to both
currently as I miss them) but I can answer some of these questions as has
Kris over the years and the first one just a few days ago...

1) It's FreeBSD under the hood...you've got the opportunity to install both
the ports and source when you install PCBSD and update them afterwards.
>From the ports you can install whatever window manager available to FreeBSD
you wish (but don't expect the inner working of PCBSD to work with it as it
was decided long ago to base PCBSD on KDE) or you can install a PBI if your
desktop choice has one available. Better yet, if it doesn't, you can develop
one. Gnome is available as a PBI.

2) see 1 above...

3) There are literally hundreds if not thousands of hacks that come and go
(are available to the user and then become deprecated due to advances in the
current build of FreeBSD) and are dependent on the hardware you use. Doing
something like this has the probability to create a vast nightmare of
unworkable systems and hard feelings against what aims to be a bullet proof
OS. I've been in tech support many years and know just how bad people can
bungle their computers if you give them a way to do it.

4) I haven't visited the forums much lately but bring it up there...I
believe you can still start a poll. Things like this would come up all the
time. See what the community thinks.

5) Don't install the FreeBSD boot loader. There's a check box on the initial
GUI install page. I don't use Linux but when I did I used GAG and it worked
fine. I use the FreeBSD boot loader to load either XP or one of several
PCBSD versions I have. OpenSolaris is closer to BSD than Linux...ask anyone
using ZFS ;-)

6) not possible...FreeBSD only uses primary slices.

Good luck!

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Simeon Nifos <archwndas at googlemail.com>wrote:

> Dear Kris,
> your work and design are amazing. I read your interview, and I was
> really surprised by the fact that you are only 27 years old with such
> great skills already. However, please allow the community to make
> suggestions on what they would love to see in PC-BSD and then you can
> judge what sounds nice or not. You do all of that for the users don't
> you?
> So please allow me to make some  suggestions I think they are
> necessary and would make many people happy:
> 1) Provide some other Desktop apart from KDE. Most people who are
> Linux, FreeBSD users, move to FreeBSD because they want something
> lighter and faster. KDE has a lot of crap nobody really needs since
> they occupy a lot of resources. So, some light-weight WM would be
> mandatory as an alternative. You can think about possible choices and
> at the same time tweak them so they can provide all the things needed:
> WiFi configuration tool (In Linux there is the WiCD) battery monitor,
> sound mixer, e.t.c.
> 2) Enlightenment E17 is something new and promising. Although it is in
> Alpha stage yet it may be a nice add on at least in the PBIs.
> 3) Provide some feature in the Installation (Options, check-box) which
> applies all known FreeBSD hacks for achieving maximum performance.
> There are a lot FreeBSD hacks that could be done and features that
> could be enabled in sysctl e.t.c. You should know.
> 4) Allow users to request or to vote (sticky forum e.t.c.) about PBIs
> they would like to be installed by default, be available on the CDs or
> at least on the PBI servers. Moreover you could have something which
> monitors the software packages (PBI) people usually install on the
> server side so that you know which are more popular and decide what
> the install images should consist of.
> Maybe not PC-BSD related but FreeBSD generally
> =====================================
> 5) It is very important to do something about the boot loader. I have
> Linux always installed by default which I trust more and I can work
> fine with it. Every time I will install some FreeBSD system, it will
> screw up my bootloader. I have to start again with a Linux CD and fix
> the bootloader because usually the FreeBSD stupid bootloader cannot
> start Linux but only FreeBSD. Wouldn't it be nice to allow FreeBSD to
> install what is needed for it to be booted by grub without erasing
> grub? That would be a very nice option. Apart from that FreeBSD should
> be able to ask the user where is his Linux system in which partition
> and then mount the /boot partition or the Linux partition, cd to
> /boot/grub/ and modify /boot/grub/menu.lst. If the user is only a
> FreeBSD person the fine. But OpenSolaris can be booted by GRUB and I
> do not see why FreeBSD should not be able to do so.
> 6) I do not know if it is possible or if ever is gonna be, but it
> should be nice to allow to install the FreeBSD on a non-primary
> partition. But this is not so important.
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