[PC-BSD Testing] Laptop Works Better with UFS + Softupdates

milanisko k vetrisko at gmail.com
Sat Aug 16 06:01:35 PDT 2008


Reading your post, I have to complain a bit about running PC-Bsd on an older

As far as the filesystem is concerned, the ZFS was causing much trouble on
my laptop (Fujitsu-Siemens E series Lifebook, P4 1.7GHz, 2GB DDR ram, ATA
60GB, Intel motherboard, integrated i855 graphics 1400x1050) - it used to
crash while installing the system (I was trying to install it three times).
So I have switched to UFS+Journaling and haven't observed the trouble any

However, the graphics causes a lot of trouble - the performance is very
poor. Furthermore, the system used to crash while the _Intel_ driver was
used by the X11. I'm going to fiddle with the X11 default _i810_ driver
settings a bit now (CPU utilisation doesn't drop below 40% while "idle"
running just few opened windows with all "extras" disabled: news reader,
Opera, Konsole + top)...

On the other hand, the system was running for about 3 hours on a PC
utilising a Core2Duo Cpu, a Nvidia 6600 pro (128MB) graphis and 2GB of DDR2
Ram on a 1280x1024 resolution with every little desktop "extra" switched on
very smoothly - the Cpu utilisation has been low, too (up to 20% while
"idle", depending on the windows count), frame-rates of the Plasma between
30-60fps with multiple transparent windows running simultaneously. It looked
very nice, indeed.

I must say, the system looks really great on a "newer" hardware...


2008/8/16 Ian Robinson <fitchkendall at gmail.com>

> Dear Kris --
> This report concerns a PCBSD 7.0 Alpha 08082008 on a laptop computer
> running the Intel Centrino chipset, P4 1.5 Ghz, and Intel 82855 built
> in video.  I had previously reported that the laptop had repeated
> freezes and reboots whenever I ran programs, especially Dolphin.  This
> experience contrasted greatly with using the Alphas on a desktop which
> was stable.  I am pleasantly surprised (after acting on your
> announcement that you would revert to the previous UFS file system in
> the next release) to report the entire laptop situation has improved
> after reinstalling the same Alpha using UFS +Softupdates as the file
> system instead of UFS +Journal.
> I have been running about four hours and have not crashed Dolphin,
> even though I have looked on other slices and some mega-sized
> directories.  Both these functions were prone to crash Dolphin and
> cause a freeze or reboot.  I've also surfed the web, searched Google
> and Google images.  These activities were also prone to cause a freeze
> or reboot under a the UFS +journal file system.  I've had up to six
> active programs running without even a hiccup.
> I am also pleased about performance, the ability to update ports and
> source using system administrator, and to install various software
> using ports.
> I had only one freeze when I clicked on four mpg video files and
> opened them simultaneously with Dragon.  I'm currently installing
> Kaffeine to see if that cures the problem.
> In summary, I am happy that changing only the file system has made a
> huge improvement for the laptop and eliminated the critical problems I
> was having.  Your instinct about the journaling file system was
> insightful.
> Ian Robinson
> Salem, Ohio
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