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On 03/12/2011 06:02, Sam Lin wrote:
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<div>This is a follow-up report regarding the LibreOffice on
PCBSD. In this report three versions of LO are involved: </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1. My own LO 3.3.0_4, the very first LO pbi built with my
draft module (aka MyBuild), </div>
<div>2. LO 3.3.0_4 obtained from <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://pbibuild.pcbsd.org" target="_blank">pbibuild.pcbsd.org</a>
which was built after I submitted my module (noted as
"ServerBuild" hereafter), and </div>
<div>3. LO 3.3.1 downloaded from pbidir this morning.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Here is the report with some quick reviews regarding each of
the builds:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1. MyBuild was built with my draft pbi module which is
amended from that for OpenOffice 3.2.1. The produced pbi sized
146.1MB. No issue/error occurred during the 22 hours of build
process on my 7 year old laptop. The following configuration
options in accordance with <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.freshports.org/editors/libreoffice/"
target="_blank">http://www.freshports.org/editors/libreoffice/</a>
were applied:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>WEBDAV=off (default) "Support webdav protocol"<br>
CUPS=on (default) "Support cups for printing"<br>
KDE4=on "With Qt4/KDE4 vclplug support"<br>
GNOME=off (default) "Better integration in gnome environnement"<br>
JAVA=off (default) "Add Java support (XML Filters, macros)"</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Note that "KDE4=" is toggled from the default "off "to "on"
here, hoping to render a better integration with KDE4 in PCBSD
8.x. Also the following option was added due to its dependency
on Python according to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.freshports.org/editors/libreoffice/"
target="_blank">http://www.freshports.org/editors/libreoffice/</a>: </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>PBIPRUNEPYTHON="NO"; export PBIPRUNEPYTHON</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Although the produced PBI worked, it appeared not well
integrated in KDE4's style. The interface in fact looks much
more like that of KDE3. Several screenshots in comparison with
OpenOffice 3.2.1 were given in Feb 24th's pbi-dev mailing list.
The integration issue was also reported along with the
screenshots.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>2. Not knowing why MyBuild did not look integrated, Kris
committed my module and tried use the same make options the
pbibuild server uses on OO:<br>
<br>
WITH_CUPS=yes<br>
WITHOUT_GNOMEVFS=yes<br>
WITHOUT_MOZILLA=yes<br>
WITH_KDE4=yes<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>and gave it a run through. The produced LO 3.3.0_4 PBI sized
336.0MB, for unknown reason it's more than twice as large in the
file size as MyBuild (146.1MB)! The interface of ServerBuild
does not look much more integrated than MyBuild - for some
aspects it appears slightly integrated but overvall it obviously
is still much worse than OpenOffice (in attached screenshots
from top-left, top-right and then bottom are OO.o3.2.1, MyBuild
(LO3304) and ServerBuild (LO3304), respectively). The response
(or rendering?) of ServerBuild is chaotically sluggish - click
on and hover the mouse cursor around tool menu bar shall give
you an idea what I mean by this (an example screenshot also
attached). Hovering on some icons (e.g. the bottom left 3 icons
in the start screen) and you shall see the icons blink before
they "settle down", which also suggests the ServerBuild's
sluggishness and OpenOffice 3.2.1's smoothness. The ServerBuild
also crashed when I attempted to open a .odt file. Concluding
that I was unable to use this build for my work, I left
ServerBuild in my system intact and have been preparing to
report the issues of LO as well as some issues of PCBSD 8.2 (to
be reported later) for the last few days. Meanwhile I just kept
using OpenOffice for my work.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>3. This morning Update Manager informed me that LO 3.3.1 was
available, so I uninstalled the previous ServerBuild (LO
3.3.0_4) and then installed LO 3.3.1. This LO331 was manually
downloaded from <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://pbidir.com" target="_blank">pbidir.com</a>
because download thru Update Manager failed, presumably this is
because LO331 has not been mirrored to all mirror sites in the
world yet. The file size is 336.7MB, slightly bigger than
ServerBuild. The module and their configurations appear
identical to those of ServerBuild, according to <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://trac.pcbsd.org/browser/pbibuild/modules/editors/libreoffice?rev=9595&order=name"
target="_blank">http://trac.pcbsd.org/browser/pbibuild/modules/editors/libreoffice?rev=9595&order=name</a>.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Like ServerBuild (LO3304), the interface in this LO331 still
appeared not integrated with KDE4. The response is also as
sluggish as ServerBuild (LO3304). While opening a .odt does not
crash in this build, I immediately recognised some issues e.g.
extremely slow in scrolling across pages. Note that the crash
and sluggishness does not occur in MyBuild (LO3304).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Some afterthoughts:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1. At this stage I wouldn't say LibreOffice PBI is ready to
go public, and I suggest LO removed from <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://pbidir.com"
target="_blank">pbidir.com</a> until at least the sluggishness
is solved.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>2. It's probably worth try my first configuration options
rather than those for OO to build LO. From what I have tried
among MyBuild (LO3304 using my conf options), ServerBuild
(LO3304 using OO's conf options) and LO331 (using OO's conf
options) I think the conf option is the first step to solve the
sluggishness.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>3. As for the integration issue, it seems this is not
PCBSD/PBI side's problem. Other distributions seem to have some
sort of problem with KDE4 integration:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.opensuse.org/LibreOffice#Troubleshooting"
target="_blank">http://en.opensuse.org/LibreOffice#Troubleshooting</a></div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://features.opensuse.org/311353" target="_blank">https://features.opensuse.org/311353</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Perhaps we should leave "KDE4=off" as is default at this
stage.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Sam</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 1 March 2011 09:00, <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pbi-dev-request@lists.pcbsd.org"
target="_blank">pbi-dev-request@lists.pcbsd.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:33:01 -0500<br>
From: Kris Moore <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kris@pcbsd.org" target="_blank">kris@pcbsd.org</a>><br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pbi-dev@lists.pcbsd.org" target="_blank">pbi-dev@lists.pcbsd.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [PC-BSD Pbi-dev] PBI module for LibreOffice -
with some<br>
glitch<br>
<br>
Looks like it failed because the build server ran out of disk
space,<br>
leme see if I can fix that here :)<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Kris Moore<br>
PC-BSD Software<br>
iXsystems<br>
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Sam,<br>
<br>
I have just finished comparing LibreOffice 3.3.1 and OpenOffice
3.2.1 (both downloaded with the software manager). I am unable to
reproduce this slowness that you described in LibreOffice. I also
verified that both LibreOffice and OpenOffice have nearly identical
visual effects and integration within KDE. Whether this is a KDE3 or
KDE4 integration I cannot speak to, but it appears to match my
desktop theme fairly well without appearing "old".<br>
<br>
As such, I do not see a reason to remove LibreOffice from pbidir at
this time. If you find an error that I <br>
can reproduce, I will consider removing the PBI.<br>
<br>
~Ken Moore<br>
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