[PC-BSD Pbi-dev] Bacula Bat changes

Silver Salonen silver.salonen at gmail.com
Wed Jan 28 02:37:19 PST 2009

On Tuesday 27 January 2009 18:52:03 Kris Moore wrote:
> Silver Salonen wrote:
> > On Wednesday 21 January 2009 09:35:55 Silver Salonen wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 20 January 2009 19:22:55 Kris Moore wrote:
> >>> Silver Salonen wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> We're in the process of moving all PBI related install files out of 
> >>>>> /usr/local if possible, and instead into /Programs/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is being done ahead of PC-BSD 7.1, in which /usr/local will ship 
> >>>>> empty, and the user will be able to install their own ports tree 
> > without 
> >>>>> it conflicting with PC-BSD related ports / PBIs. (The PC-BSD install 
> >>>>> will be done in /PCBSD/local now)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In the case of your man pages, since /Programs/bin is in the users 
> >>>>> variable, then you should be able to just do a mkdir /Programs/man (if 
> >>>>> it doesn't exist, it will on 7.1 by default), and install any man 
> >>>>> into there. This will keep things nice and tidy for the user :)
> >>>> Thanks for clearing that up.
> >>>> What about pixmaps and sample config (ie. etc/)? Will there be folders 
> > for 
> >>>> these too? If so, we could change BaculaBat to install/link things in 
> > new 
> >>>> places, couldn't we?
> >>> Any other directories / files, that a binary like bacula-bat may need, 
> >>> can be kept in the programs directory. It doesn't really need to leave 
> >>> there, since its compiled with LOCALBASE=/Programs/BaculaBat<Ver>
> >>>
> >>> In other words, if you just include etc/ or share/pixmaps within it, the 
> >>> binary should know to "look" in that directory for its supplemental 
> >> Yes, but I'm not speaking about binaries needed by Bat, but rather other 
> > files 
> >> (pixmaps and sample config) needed by user. And to assume that a user 
> >> keep track on file locations based on what programs may be 
> >> upgraded, is a bit unfriendly towards user. So these files should be 
> > somewhere 
> >> not dependent on program's version.
> > 
> > So, any further thoughts on these folders?
> > 
> I'm not sure I think that these files need to be installed in a 3rd 
> party location. All the other programs I've built, when the binary is 
> compiled, it understands to look in /Programs/<name>/share/pixmaps or 
> icons/ properly, since the binary was compiled with those options. Are 
> you anticipating a case where the user wants to add files manually to 
> the programs tree? Shouldn't those be going in the users home dir, such 
> as in .bacula-bat
> Anyway, thats my take on it, unless I'm misunderstanding your question. 
> Maybe provide me an example where you would need to place pixmaps or 
> sample configs in 3rd party locations.

An example: creating a launcher and assigning the icon to it. If the icon is 
added to panel from KDE menu, does it change when KDE menu's item gets 

And if binaries (also needed only by users, not by programs themselves) are 
put into /Programs/bin/, why not to put other needed stuff (eg. pixmaps) into 
other subfolders under /Programs?


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