[PC-BSD Dev] pbi10 and pbidir.com

Paul Stanton paul at stanton.name
Tue Oct 22 15:53:42 PDT 2013

I apologize for interjecting, but I don't think that app <install> would be
more intuitive (It is somewhat ambiguous.) - and begs the question of how
intuitive command names have to be for command-line users.  (Something like
"download", "get" or simply "pbi" may be preferable - since "install" is
already taken.)

Additionally, I'm not sure if a pbidir site would be much better than the
current AppCafe system with a couple new features (except that people not
running PC-BSD could easily view that pbis, information about them,
reviews, etc.)  While it's possible perhaps to view things in the google
play store via web page, that's not something that's universal.  For
example, the Windows 8 store does not use a website. I don't think (I may
be wrong) that the App store has much as far as a website interface for
their "store."  Additionally, the google play store is primarily accessible
via website to get apps for one's browser and send apps to one's phone via
computer (where it's easier to search and research apps).  Moving more
towards a purely web-based solution may also cause problems when people
attempt to use non-standard browsers.  (I do love using links.)

Just my two cents.


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Kris Moore <kris at pcbsd.org> wrote:

> On 10/22/2013 04:11, Dave Cottlehuber wrote:
> > On 22. Oktober 2013 at 09:56:44, Yuri Momotiuk (yurkis at gmail.com) wrote:
> >> Hi all
> >>
> >> When you design pbi10 could you think about pbidir.com integration?
> >> Let me explain. Take a look into ubuntu store or android market. This is
> >> more than just application repo. Every application have screenshots,
> rating
> >> and user feedback (selected by using language). Almost all of this was
> in
> >> pbidir.com.
> >> So maybe good idea is to add some optional field to the PBI repo index
> that
> >> refer to some site (pbidir in common case). That site should provide
> simple
> >> web API to get:
> >> 1. Current applications rating index (just like 'APP_NAME RATING' line
> by
> >> line).
> >> 2. Screenshots URL list for application.
> >> 3. User reviews for application by language(s).
> >> Also site may provide API for:
> >> 1. Rate application
> >> 2. Add application review
> >> If something should be unigue (fir example user should rate app only
> once)
> >> HISTID may be used.
> >>
> >> In that case we will can range apps by rating in GUI, read and write
> >> reviews, etc on AppCafe.
> >>
> >> Or in simplest case we can only provide WebView inside AppCafe (simular
> to
> >> AppCafe in 8.x) to display site contants. Or we can use mix of this
> cases:
> >> Get apps rating index by api (for ranging in UI, but display site in
> >> WebView for other).
> >>
> >> I understand that things decribed above is a complex task that require
> >> desktop and web development. Also you will need to maintain pbidir
> site. I
> >> can not ask you for that, because I don't sure that I can help to
> develop
> >> this (I still have no a time :( )
> >> So this is just idea for future. If you like this just make ability for
> >> future implementation in pbi10 format.
> > Wholeheartedly agree. A good opportunity for some community contribution!
> >
> > Also as a suggestion for user friendliness consider aliasing, or calling
> the command line tool not "pbi" but "app":
> >
> >     app install firefox
> >
> > etc. makes a whole lot of sense.
> >
> > A+
> > Dave
> >
> +2 to both ideas :)
> The pbidir website will be a huge undertaking, so not sure we could do
> one for 10. However I like the "app <install>" idea. I may be able to
> add that as a alias for "pbi_add" and such.
> --
> Kris Moore
> PC-BSD Software
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