[PC-BSD Dev] PC-BSD Status Update

Fabrizio Parrella fabrizio at bibivu.com
Thu Jun 20 07:39:16 PDT 2013

Hello, I like all the changes but I do not agree with the dropping of 
the i386.
I have many 64bit computers that do not even start if I install the 
64bit version on them or give a various range of problems from black 
screens to corruption of the user settings etc...  with 32bit the 
computer works great (9.1 and 9.0).  Those computers are Optiplex 740 
and 760 as well as other IBM computers that I cannot recall the name now 
but that we are fading out.

Also for some reason the 64bit version does not work well with parallel 
printers when a USB scanner (keyboard emulator) is installed, for this 
reason all my production computers have the 32 bit version installed 
(over 40 computers).

I am currently using an Optiplex 740 with 9.0 32bits installed and then 
upgraded to 9.1 64bits and everything almost works great (can't print on 
most of the programs that I use, but I don't mind), most of my CSR are 
using 9.0 64bits upgraded to 9.1 64bits, and it seems like that they are 
working great.  The only difference between me and them is that I have 
6Gb Ram and they only have between 3 and 4Gb (Ram already 

Dropping the 32bit, unless those problems are fixed, will mean to me 
that I will have to start to look back to windows with steady state 
installed.. and I do not want to do that.

Please reconsider the decision about the 32bits or at least work toward 
fixing whatever bugs are currently affecting the 64bits.

Thank you


On 06/20/2013 10:24, Kris Moore wrote:
> I wanted to take this time to give you a status update on PC-BSD /
> TrueOS, and the direction going forward. As many of you know, we've been
> doing builds of 9.1-RELEASE and 9-STABLE as a "Rolling-Release". Our new
> plan is to issue system and package updates on the following schedule:
> - Update PKGNG repo on or about the 1st and 15th of the month.
> - Update the PKGNG repo on or about the 5th and 20th of the month
> - Issue a new "freebsd-update" patch on the 1st, which includes the
> latest -STABLE version
> In addition to the rolling release, we also have some other cool new
> projects in the works. The first among these is our work to make ZFS the
> cornerstone of the PC-BSD/TrueOS experience. This will bring features
> such as ZFS "Boot-Environments", including the ability to boot directly
> from them at the boot-loader. If you've not run boot-environments
> before, you will wonder how you survived without them. To accomplish
> this, we are going to be moving to the GRUB boot-loader, which now has
> ZFS support. The pbi-manager and Warden already have extensive ZFS
> support, and we will be enhancing our other utilities, such as
> "Life-Preserver" with ZFS features as well.
> In addition to re-focusing on solely on ZFS as our default file-system,
> we have had to take a look at the feasibility of continuing with the
> i386 builds. As many of you know, ZFS is a 21st century operating system
> and doesn't play nicely with the legacy i386 kernel / versions of
> FreeBSD. In addition over the past couple years, more and more of
> time-consuming issues we've encountered have been only on i386, partly
> due to the fact that most FreeBSD devs have already moved on to 64bit
> and also due to the quickly shrinking number of users / systems that
> still run i386. In order to make PC-BSD / TrueOS, secure, stable and
> timely, we've decided to drop the i386 builds going forward, and instead
> focus on a single 64bit architecture. This means the next editions of
> rolling-release and 9.2 onward will be 64bit only. If you are already on
> 64bit, then you won't need to worry about anything. However if you are
> running i386 on your box you will need to consider moving it to the
> 64bit versions in the near future. If your hardware is less than 10
> years old then most likely you will be able to do this without any
> difficulty.
> For those helping us test the rolling-release now, I hope to have a new
> ISO + package set available in the next week or so, which includes the
> new GRUB boot-loader for Boot-Environments. I will post back details on
> how to manually setup / test this feature in the near future. Once these
> new features have stabilized a bit further, we will begin to issue
> general updates for users of the old 9.1-RELEASE from January to upgrade
> to 9.1 Rolling Release.

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